Ultra Prism Draft – Round 2

In preparation of the release of Ultra Prism, we decided to hold a “draft” as an exercise to determine which cards might be the most relevant. We looked for the 4 greatest Pokemon Card players in the land, and when they didn’t respond to our messages, we found Harvey, Mike, Juan, and FayID to take up the task.

Round 1 here

Round DRAFT SPOT DRAFT PERSON Number Name Type Rarity
2 5 Juan 13 LeafeonGX Grass Ultra-Rare Rare
2 6 Mike 58 Giratina Prism Star Psychic Rare Holo
2 7 FayID 89 Solgaleo Prism Star Metal Rare Holo
2 8 Harvey 146 DialgaGX Dragon Rare Ultra

Mike: I’m so mad that Leafeon went 5th, because I had him ranked 2nd, and I picked next. My goal with this card is to 150 points of damage in one turn — 50 from active, use super scoop/acerola, 50 from the second one, switch/retreat, and 50 from the last. That is until my opponent plays GlaceonGX, and GX abilities are kaput. Did I say how strong that card was going to be?

As for my pick, I’m interested in using Giratina with super scoop as well. Play it and place 2 energy (plus a third if you have it in your hand). Then scoop it, and play it again later in the game to accelerate more energy.

Harvey: I think the easy answer is to say that all Theorymon with Leafon stops at Cyrus. If we set Cyrus aside, however, I really like the idea of a Lurantis Decidueye build. At the end of the prior meta, Lurantis Decidueye was the best deck I had. I won a TON with it in August. I don’t keep numbers in August, but I won A LOT. I’ll definitely try a Leafeon Lurantis Decidueye build… but not until after Collinsville.

I totally dissed Giratina and left it out of my top twenty. I like Mike’s idea of SSU with Tina, but I don’t know how well the Theorymon translates into reality.

Juan: Leafeon…finally, you will get the recognition and respect that you deserve after all these years away from standard lol. Personal feelings aside, if we put aside the aforementioned counters to a strong turn 1 setup, Leafeon will give Grass Pokemon such as Decidueye and Lurantis some shine. In essence, one could go all out and set up the Sunny day Lurantis to have him become the main attacker instead of the supporter, but my go to idea would be to get the Decidueye and Zoroark out as soon as possible. DeciArk is a build that I don’t use all that much, but my memorable moments with it on PTCGO make it the kind of deck that I would want to work on and perfect. Can it be top tier? Perhaps, perhaps not. But fun? Absolutely. Back to Leafeon GX: his ability to setup evolution based deck will be a powerful one during his time in standard. I would strongly suggest having him in the binders for players interested in him, but are not convinced just yet on whether to have a go at him or not.

FayId: Leafeon is likely one of the stars of the set depending on how it is played. Likely with Zoroark or Decidueye.

As for Giratina — Slap this thing down then use energy switch to move the energy onto Drapion and you have a poison paralysis deck of awesome. Sounds easy right?

No. It is flat out stupid. While I like the idea behind this, there are better Prism Stars.

In expanded, however, you can potentially abuse this thing using a multitude of pick ups plus energy switch and multi switch. Not sure there is a psychic pokemon worth that kind of effort though…

Juan: I’m actually shocked to see Giratina making it to the top ten, so will all that said…

Giratina Prism…you, Lunala Prism, and Dawn Wings represent the only glimmer of hope I have for Lunala GX as a deck. I understand Dark is a horrible weakness to have right now (Zoroark and the upcoming Weavile are out for blood in the current format), but for any fans of the Legendary Moon Pokemon, try to use Lunala as a fun deck through and through (show her some love, even if it isn’t in major tournament events). So where does Giratina fit in all of this? Well, you could attempt to add Super Scoop Ups to the build to make it work more than once in the entire game, but that is quite RNG/Luck of the Irish reliant as it stands. Two free energy on the board however makes it a very useful mon when you want to thin the deck down further and further to reach the draws that you need, and for what it’s worth: Mewtwo GX with Lunala and Max Potion makes for some pretty interesting games either way. In the end, so long as the threat of Riotous Beating exists, Giratina cannot thrive…can’t believe I’m saying this, but you should have been a dragon type instead.

Lunala, you have a reprint in this set so you have plenty of chances to become something great.

Mike: Solgaleo might be slightly better than Giratina, because it can take metal energy from the discard. And with all the metal cards that discard energy, this is a good thing. So maybe I struck out with this pick? I’m not sure…

Harvey: Another huge win for Metal decks in this set is the Prism Star Solgaleo. It also helps balance Metalcrozma and keep it honest against Hoopa and baby Ninetales. And it gives you a way to make Necrozma work against Garbodor BKP. Like I said, in the past if you do 220 damage on one turn and zero the next, you’re really only doing 110. However, in this age of Acerola, Max Potion, and Super Scooper, it might not be a bad idea to take that extra turn to ensure you’re OHKOing your opponent.

FayId: Solgaleo, this plus Magnezone plus Dusk Mane Necrozma. Terrifying. You could even get cute and use this in straight up solgaleo.

Juan: Solgaleo Prism, I’m confident everyone gave him the spotlight that he deserves and more. Furthermore: this is probably your saving grace should you lose your Magnezone during the mid to late game. Radiant Star is your beacon of hope in the deck so do not doubt his place in the build: he is a staple Prism Star card for MetalCrozma, no doubt about it.

Mike: Timeless GX – 150 – Take another turn after this one. (Skip the between turns step.)

Are you a 30 degree angle? Because you’re acute-y.
This is just wrong. It would be like if the talented and beautiful Natalie Portman was also a bilingual scientist. Wait she is? This attack does 150 damage and you get the next turn too. Granted you need 5 energy (3 metal), but now metal has good energy acceleration. With Solgaleo Prism Star, you might be able to power it up in one turn.

Harvey: My number two pick (so glad I got it in the draft!) I believe Dialga’s GX attack is the most broken attack in the game. I wrote about it in my Metalcrozma preview, being able to go twice in a row will win the majority of the time. I would even go so far to say that if you get five energy on Dialga, you will win 75% minimum. I will stand by this: if my opponent has five energy on Dialga and it’s in the active, I’m probably going to scoop right there.

I’m seriously considering the Zoroark Weavile deck that I wrote about a couple weeks ago for Collinsville. If you go up against Metalcrozma with Zoroark Weavile, you should be able to steal Timeless GX before your opponent can use it. That’s going to put you in a great position to win right there.

FayId: Dialga-GX — Should have some cute plays that could happen with the dusk mane necrozma deck I previously mentioned. The GX attack could be busted though if you can power it up.

Juan: Dialga GX. Before I get into the attack that makes him shine so bright, lets review the rest of what he can do. First attack: Overclock – Draw cards until you have 6 in hand. This I like. It’s like Collect on Lapras Gx and if you should start off with him on front, it isn’t the end of the world. You’ll be out of Delinquent range and you set up for the following turn. And shred was done right here (why they chose to do Kommo-o GX wrong during his designing is beyond me). Basically, Hoopa from Shining Legends is no threat to him, neither is Alolan Ninetales. Hoopa gets knocked down in two blows, while Alolan Ninetales from all walks of life get taken out of commision:

Onto Timeless-GX… Alolan Golem GX had a lot going for him with his own GX attack, but Dialga does it so much better. A basic 2 prize attacker being supported by a 1 prize engine, rather than being a stage 2 that requires set up and energy buildup that can be expensive to get up and running, Dialga will lead Metal decks to victory simply off the fact that his attack (alongside Choice Band) will OHKO Tapu Leles and his Metal variant coming later this year is going to deal with many more two prize Pokemon. Best case scenario when using Timeless GX would have to be a decisive knockout with Dialga, followed up with another 2 prize knockout by any of your viable attackers, effectively taking 4 prizes like a Guzzlord, while leaving your opponent at the mercy of one last attack ending the game right there.

I initially didn’t hype Dialga up that much, and while I don’t know whether he was revealed before Magnezone or not in November, I just stayed calm and rational about his appearance in the game. Now he’s definitely a force to be reckoned with.

One weakness to keep in mind should this card become more popular: the new Tapu Lele in this set, the fairy one. Just one Counter Energy is all she needs to OHKO a fully loaded Dragon type Dialga GX. But it’s a rare threat. Overall, good card: use it wisely.

4 comments

  1. For anyone that may get confused with my Dialga GX review: on the part where I mention Alolan Ninetales getting taken out by him, I forgot to add onto it. Basically once the Metal Type Dialga comes out, Ninetales isn’t a problem. Then again we got Heatran so any Metal deck, even the ones that might not want to use Dusk Mane, should be fine, because of Heatran just playing his role in the deck.

  2. So I’m trying to remember since it’s been about ten years since I’ve run Hydreigon EX in a deck, but this Shred is the exactly identical attack. In my memory, I think you’re right that Shred passes through abilities as well, but my logical brain is saying “Hold the phone! Baby Ninetales and Hoopa have abilities not effects.” Just reading the straight up text, I don’t think Shred penetrates Scoundrel Ring or Luminous Barrier. I could be wrong, though, but I think Shred was only effective against Glaceon EX and Regice.

    1. I believe shred does go through Hoopa and Alolan Ninetales, because their abilities of preventing Gx and Ex damage and effects technically counts and them being under the effect of their ability.

      I can actually attest to this in more than one occasion: I faced off against A Hoopa deck with my Lunala deck. Mewtwo GX’s GX attack went right through Hoopa. Then two years ago I was using a Hybrid Mega Mewtwo deck, and my opponent had out a Carbink….Vanishing Strike pierced right through him as well.

      So I can assure you: Dialga can fight through these mons’. ^_^

  3. Shred definitely ignores abilities like those on Hoopa / Ninetales. It is no different than the old Cobalion EX / Hydreigon EX (and the dumpster fire that is Kommo-O GX).

    Dialga is a nice card and I have seen some lists utilizing Choice Band with the idea of taking a Lele with the GX attack then following it up with something like a 220 Dusk Mane attack to take 4 prizes. While intriguing, I honestly think it is the wrong approach with the card because half the battle with the deck is keeping Dusk Mane alive. Basically, you need the FFB to treat it like it is a bulky Stage 2 and there aren’t many Pokes that will require more than the 230 you can hit with FFB on. So, that alters how I approach Dialga. Typically what I have attempted to do is to either take 2 prizes or 3 prizes during those turns. That can either be hitting a big poke like Decidueye 2 times to take it out, or more frequently taking out two pokes that are in the process of staging up. This combined with something like Cyrus can be exceptionally devastating to my opponent and is far more likely to swing a game in my opinion. 4 prizes is awesome but atypical. Sweeping evolving pokes and forcing them to use a draw supporter instead of a return Cyrus type of play is quite common. Sometimes it is better to go for the small long term play than to wait for the giant play of awesome splash.

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